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Post  Admin on Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:37 am

Setting up a VM and running a secure bot


Guide to using STACKHUNTER

This is a guide to show you how to get Your bot running securely on a single computer using the VMware Server application as a second, "virtual" computer.

The guide assumes no special knowledge, but you will need some basic computer skills. You will need to know how to install software, how to rename files, how to navigate folders and so on.

I am also assuming that you are using the same operating system as me. If you are using Windows XP Media Centre Edition or Windows XP Professional, you can use this guide. If you are using some other brand of Windows (including Vista), the guide might not be reliable. I have only tested these instructions with XP.

Definitions

The "real" computer is the one that is sitting on your desk or on your lap. It has its own operating system. The "virtual" computer is the one we are going to create using VMware Server. We can think of the "virtual" computer as a separate computer with its own operating system, even though it is physically part of the "real" computer.

Step 1 - Install an operating system on the virtual computer

When VMware is ready, you'll see a new window with some details about the virtual computer. Find "Start this virtual machine" on the left and click it.

VMware will now look for the Windows installation disk in your CD/DVD drive. Put the installation disk in the drive and Windows will begin installing onto your virtual computer.

Soon, Windows will ask you if you want to format your hard drive. Only the virtual hard drive of the virtual computer is going to get formatted, so you don't need to worry about the data on your real hard drive. It is perfectly safe.

If you asked how you want to format the virtual hard drive, make sure you choose one of the NTFS options. (Do not choose any option with FAT16 or FAT32).

Eventually, Windows will ask you to enter your full name. We are going to create three seperate users, so choose a name for the first user ("Jessica", for example) and enter it here. This user will have permanent administrator privileges.

Next, enter an administrator password for this user. Write down the name and password now.

ADMINISTRATOR NAME AND PASSWORD _________________________

Later, Windows will ask you to enter up to five user names. The first user - the box labelled "your name" - should be the same as the user you entered above ("Jessica"). Don't fill in the other boxes yet.

Wait until the installation is complete. You should be looking at a brand-new installation of Windows XP. If you can run Solitaire (click "Start - All Programs - Games - Solitaire") then you are ready to move on to the next step.

Step 2 - Install VMTools, Firewall and Antivirus on virtual computer

VMTools is a package which, among other things, gets the mouse to move smoothly between the real and the virtual computer. You need to install it now, so press CTRL+ALT to restore mouse control to the real computer. Then, on the VMware Server window, click on the menu option VM, and then choose "Install VMTools..."

VMTools will now install itself inside the virtual computer. The virtual computer will need to reboot.

After the reboot, find the VMTools icon in the system tray, next to the clock. It looks like three small interlinked squares. When you have found it, double-click on it.

A window appears and the "Options" tab is already showing. Find the line "Show VMware Tools in the taskbar" and click on it, so that there is no longer a tick next to it. Click “OK” to save your changes. This measure prevents the casino from seeing that you're using VMware - just in case they take a screenshot of your desktop.

Now, your virtual computer is connected to the Internet, so it needs firewall software and antivirus software, just as your real computer does. Install the software (connect to the Internet to download it, if you have to), and then run a scan to check that your virtual computer is free from viruses.

(You could use AVG Antivirus from free.grisoft.com, and Zonealarm Firewall from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Step 3 - Check that the real and virtual computers can communicate

If the real computer and the virtual computer can't communicate with each other, all your efforts in securing them will be wasted. Let's check the communications now.

The traditional way to test a network is to have one computer "ping" the other. A ping is a short signal which one computer sends to another. The signal will get bounced back if the network is running as it should.

Before pinging anything, you need to turn off the firewalls on both computers. If you have installed a firewall such as Zonealarm, switch it off. Now click "Start - Control Panel - Security Centre". At the bottom of the window is an option to "Manage security settings for: Windows Firewall". Click on "Windows Firewall" and make sure it is off. Do this on both computers.

Now you need to find out the IP address for both computers. (An IP address is a numerical address which computers on a network use to identify each other.)

On your real computer, click "Start - Run". Type "cmd" in the box and press return.

A new window appears. Type “ipconfig" and press return. You will see a series of numbers, some of which are marked "IP address". Find the one that corresponds to the type of Internet connection you have - for example, the one labeled "wireless connection" if you connect to the Internet through a wireless router.

The IP address of my real computer is 192.168.1.4 - yours probably looks almost the same. Write it down now.

REAL COMPUTER IP ADDRESS _________________________

Now do the same thing on your virtual computer. Find the IP address and write it down. The IP address of my virtual computer is 192.168.1.7 - yours will be similar.

VIRTUAL COMPUTER IP ADDRESS _________________________

On your real computer, find the new window again and type "ping x.x.x.x", then press return. Replace x.x.x.x with the IP address of your virtual computer. You should see something like this...

Pinging 192.168.1.7 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.7: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.7: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.7: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.7: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.7:
(and so on)

This dialogue means that the real computer sent a signal to the virtual computer four times, and each time it got a response.

If the network isn't set up properly, you will see something like this...

Pinging 192.168.1.7 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.7:
(and so on)

This dialogue means that the real computer sent a signal to the virtual computer four times, but received no response.

Go to your virtual computer and do the same thing. This time, type "ping x.x.x.x" replacing x.x.x.x with the IP address of your real computer. If you get a response, your network is set up properly and you can continue to the next step. If the network isn't set up properly, you should seek help from someone who understands networks.

Don't forget to TURN YOUR FIREWALLS BACK ON AGAIN when you finish this step. If you have a good firewall such as Zonealarm, you can leave the less powerful Windows firewall turned off permanently (on your real computer as well as your virtual computer).

Step 4 - Set up user accounts on virtual computer

Click "Start - Control Panel - User Accounts".

You had already set up one user while installing Windows. This user already has admin privileges. We'll call it the "admin" user.

We need to give this user a password. It can be the same password you used in step 4.

Click on the user, then click on "create a password". Enter the password into the boxes and click on "create password".

The next window asks you if you want to make your files and folders private. You certainly do, so click "Yes, make private". Click on "Back" to return to the user accounts window.

Now we'll set up two new users with less privileges. You will be logged in as the second user whenever you connect to a casino. We'll call this the "casino" user. The third user will be created to hide things from the casino. We'll call this the "stealth" user.

Choose names and passwords for these users, and write them all down now.

ADMIN USER _________________________
CASINO USER _________________________
STEALTH USER _________________________

The casino user will have restricted privileges initially. Click "create a new account", enter the name of the casino user and click "next". Click on "limited" and then click on "create account". The casino user will appear next to the admin user. Click on the casino user and give it a password.

The stealth user will have restricted privileges permanently. Click "create a new account" and set up the stealth user in the same way you set up the casino user.

Click "create a new account". Choose a name and then click on "limited account".

That completes this step. If there is a "guest" user shown, you can ignore it. Close the "user accounts" window.



Step 5 - Create a protected folder on virtual computer

You should still be logged in as the admin user. Stay logged in as this user throughout step 8.

We need to create a folder to hide some sensitive information. The best place for this folder is inside the root folder (click Start - My Computer - Local Disk C:. Then click on "show contents of this folder").

Create a new folder in this window and give it an innocent name. ("Files" would be a good name.) From now on, this folder will be referred to as the "Ninja" folder.

Click "Start - Control Panel - (Appearances and Themes) - Folder Options". Click the "View" tab. In the "Advanced Settings" window, find the line "Use simple file sharing (recommended)". If there is a green tick on this line, click on it to remove it. Click on the big "OK" button to save your changes.

Now, right click on the Ninja folder and choose "Properties". Click on the "Security" tab. In the "Group or user names" box you will see a list of users, but the stealth user should not be one of them.

We want to change the folder's settings so that the stealth user is the only user who can see inside it. (Not even users with admin privileges should be able to see inside.)

Click the “Add" button. In the "Enter the object names to select" box, type in the name of the stealth user (for example, my stealth user is called James). Click the "OK" button.

There should now be a new entry in the list. My stealth user shows up as “James (XPPRO/James)" in that list.

Now we need to remove every user except the stealth user from the list. Click the "Advanced" button. Find the line which says "Inherit from parent the permission entries..." and click on it. A warning pop-up appears; click on the "Remove" button. The line which says "Inherit from parent the permission entries..." should no longer have a tick next to it. Click the “OK” button. Another warning pop-up might appear. If it does, click "Remove", then “OK”. The list of users should now have only one user in it, the stealth user.

Find the "Full control" line. In the "allow" column, there is a small box. Click on it, and a column full of ticks will appear. If everything has gone to plan, there will be one user with full control over the Ninja folder. If you're happy, click "OK". If something seems to be wrong, click "Cancel" and go through the last two paragraphs again.

Step 6- Take charge of the protected folder

Log out from the admin user account and login as the stealth user (click Start - Log off - Switch User).

Go to "My Computer" again and find the Ninja folder. Right click on the folder and choose "Properties". Click on the "Security" tab. Check that the stealth user is still the only user in the list.

Click the "Advanced" button and click the "Owner" tab. Left click once on the stealth user so that it changes colour to blue. Find the "Replace owner..." line and click on it, so that a green tick appears next to it. Then click on "Apply".

The user in the box "Current owner of this item" should have changed to the stealth user.

Now click on the "Permissions" tab. Find the "Inherit from the parent permission entries..." line; there should still be no tick next to it. Just below, find the "Replace permission entries on all child objects..." line; click on it so that there is a green tick next to it. Click the "Apply" button. A warning pop-up appears; click the "Yes" button.

Click on the “OK” buttons twice to save your changes.

Let's check that everything is set up correctly. The stealth user is the only one who should be able to see the Ninja folder and ANYTHING it contains.

Open the Ninja folder (by double clicking on it) and create a folder called "test" inside it. Right click on the "test" folder, choose "Properties" and click on the "Security" tab. If the stealth user is the only person in the list, everything is as it should be.

Close all the windows and log out from the stealth user account.

Step 7 - One more check

Log in as the admin user. Find the Ninja folder, and try to look inside it. Your attempt to see inside this protected folder should be denied. When you run casino software, it will not be able to see inside this folder (unless it tries to take ownership of the folder - but this would be a CRIMINAL act.)

This setup is not 100% secure, but it is probably secure enough.

Step 8 - Install Bring on your virtual computer

You now have a real computer and a virtual computer. Stackhunter OH is going to run on the real computer. The casino software is going to run on the virtual computer.

Now you need to install some software that will allow the real computer to see what the casino software (on the virtual computer) is doing. There are several ways of doing this. We are going to use a piece of software called "Bring". All files are included as a Download at the bottom of this post.



On the virtual computer, log in as the stealth user. Now go to the official WH site and download "bring.exe" (from the "stealth" page). Download it directly into the Ninja folder.

The casino software can't see inside the Ninja folder, but it will be able to see Bring being run as a process. (If you want to see all the processes your computer is running, press CTRL+ALT+DEL and then click on the "processes" tab.)

The solution is to rename Bring to something more innocent. Then, if the casino software looks at the processes you are running, it won't be able to find out anything incriminating about Bring.

Rename Bring now. For example, you could rename it to "notepad" or “paint".

Step 9 - Install software on your real computer

You can now install Bring on your real computer. You don't need to rename it; the casino cannot see what is happening on your real computer.

Open a folder on the desktop, call it "Bring", and download into it the files "bring.exe" and “bring.ini".

Click "Start - Control Panel - Folder Options". Click the "View" tab. In the box labeled "Advanced Settings", scroll down and find the line "Hide extensions for known file types". If there is a green tick next to this line, click on it to make the tick disappear. Click "OK” to save your changes.

You should also install OH on your real computer now if you haven't already. DO NOT INSTALL OH ON YOUR VIRTUAL COMPUTER.

Step 10 - Configure Bring

Do you remember the IP address of your virtual computer? You're going to need it again now.

On your real computer, go into the "Bring" folder you just created and open the file "bring.ini" in a text editor. (Right-click on “bring.ini”, choose "Open with..." and select "Notepad".)

Find the following lines:

# remotehost port password
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a 192.168.x.x ???? prompt
b 192.168.x.x ???? prompt
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Change them to this:

# remotehost port password
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a x.x.x.x eeee secret
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x.x.x.x should be the IP address of your virtual computer.

eeee is the "port" number. It can be a number of your own choice. 80 would be a good choice, and so would 800, 5000 or 8080.

"secret" is a password. It's not good password, but it is fine for the purposes of testing Bring.

Here are the changes I made to my bring.ini file:

# remotehost port password
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a 192.168.1.7 80 secret
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Step 11 - Start Bring

Now we're going to test Bring by playing a game of solitaire on the virtual computer, and by attempting to control it from the real computer.

Go to the virtual computer. You should still be logged in as the stealth user. Start the Solitaire programme ("Start - All Programs - Games - Solitaire").

Now open another command prompt (click "Start - Run", type "cmd" and press enter).

The command prompt window is currently looking at the "My Documents" folder. You need to move into the Ninja folder. If you followed the earlier suggestion, the location of your Ninja folder will be "C:\files". To move into this folder, simply type “CD C:\files" and press return. (If this doesn't work you will need to learn how to use the command prompt. Do an Internet search for "DOS command prompt".)

Now type the following command and press return. Instead of bring, you should type the name of your renamed file. Instead of 80, you should type the port number you chose in the previous step, and instead of "secret" you should type the password you chose.

bring -s 80 secret

A small pop-up will appear to show you that Bring has started on your virtual computer. Click "OK".

Now go to your real computer. Go into the Bring folder and double click on "bring.exe".

Another pop-up appears to show you that Bring has started on your real computer. Click “OK”.

Another window appears labeled "Select remote connection". You should see a line that looks exactly like the line you entered in the "bring.ini" file.

a 192.168.1.7 80 secret

Click on this line so that it turns blue, and click the "OK" button.

Another window appears with a list of programs that are currently running on your virtual computer. One of them should be solitaire, so click on it so that it turns blue and then click the "OK" button.

Solitaire will launch on your real computer, and if everything is set up correctly, you will be able to play it and watch your mouse clicks affecting both computers at once!

If you are unable to control solitaire from your real computer you definitely won't be able to control a poker table. Before you continue, seek help from someone who understands networks.



Step 12 - Stop running Bring

When you have had enough of playing solitaire, you should shut down Bring.

On the real computer, just close the solitaire window.

On the virtual computer, there are three ways to stop Bring.

1. Log off

2. Stop the Bring process. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL. Two task manager windows will appear, one for the real computer and one for the virtual computer. Find the task manager on the virtual computer and click the "Processes" tab, find “bring.exe" (however you renamed it), click on it to turn it blue, and then click on "End Process".

3. Lock the desktop. This doesn't actually close Bring, but it does halt it and prevent your real computer from communicating with it.

Stop Bring on both computers before you move on to the next step.

Step 13 - Set up the "run as a different user" facility

When you connect to the casino's Internet site you should always be logged into your virtual computer as the casino user. However, you will be running Bring AS IF you will logged on as the stealth user. In this way, the casino won't be able to detect that you are using Bring. Here's how to do it.

On the virtual computer, log in as the casino user.

Right-click on the desktop and choose "New", then choose "Shortcut". A window will appear. In the box, type "cmd". Click "Next" and then click "Finish".

A new icon, “cmd.exe", will have appeared on your desktop. It's actually a shortcut to the command prompt that you have used a few times before. Right-click on this shortcut and choose "Properties". A window appears and the "Shortcut" tab should already be showing. Click the "Advanced" button. Find the line which reads "Run with different credentials". Click on it so that a tick appears next to it. Click the "OK" buttons twice.

"Run with different credentials" actually means "run this program as a different user".

Start solitaire again. Double click the “cmd.exe" shortcut and a window will appear, asking you which user you want to use to run the program. Click on the line "The following user". Then, enter the stealth user's name and password, and click “OK".

The command prompt window appears. It is running as if you were logged in as the stealth user. We can safely run Bring from this window. Go into the Ninja folder (perhaps by typing "CD C:\files”). Type the following command, changing the words "bring", "80" and "secret" exactly as you did in step 14.

bring -s 80 secret

Bring's pop-up window appears, so click the “OK” button.

Now go to the real computer and start Bring there. Try to open the solitaire window, just as you did before.

Go back to the virtual computer. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to make the task manager appear in both windows. Find the virtual computer's task manager and select the "Properties" tab. Check that "bring.exe" (however you renamed it) is running under the stealth user, even though you are logged in as the casino user. Check that "sol.exe" - the solitaire process - is running under the casino user.

Step 14- Check security with Gaze

We're going to make one more security check using the program Gaze.

Still on the virtual computer and still logged in as the casino user, go to the WH site and find download page for Gaze. There should be two files - "gaze.cpp" and “gaze.exe". Download both of them to the virtual computer's desktop.

Double click on “gaze.exe” to run it. A window will appear, and shortly afterwards a pop-up labeled "Windows - no disk" will appear. Click the "Cancel" button, and close the Gaze window.

The results of the test have been saved to a file on the desktop called "gaze”. Confusingly, there are now two text files on the desktop with the same name. Double click one of them to open it in a text editor. If the first few lines don't look like this, you've got the wrong file.

Sat Jun 23 17:40:42 2007

==
PROCESSES
==

==
PROCESS NAME: [System Process]
--
WARNING: OpenProcess failed with error 87 (The parameter is incorrect)
process ID = 0x00000000
thread count = 1
parent process ID = 0x00000000
Priority Base = 0

You want to read the report on “bring.exe" (however you renamed it). Press CTRL+F to do a search for this file. When you find it, it should look like this...

==
PROCESS NAME: bring.exe
--
WARNING: OpenProcess failed with error 5 (Access is denied)
process ID = 0x00000EE8
thread count = 1
parent process ID = 0x00000EDC
Priority Base = 8
WARNING: CreateToolhelp32Snapshot (of modules) failed with error 5 (Access is denied)

THREAD ID = 0x00000EEC
base priority = 8
delta priority = 0

If you can see the message "OpenProcess failed with error 5 (Access is denied)", then you will know for sure that the casino user can't find out anything incriminating about Bring. Your security checks are now complete.

Close Notepad, solitaire and the “cmd.exe" shortcut. Delete Gaze from your desktop and empty the recycle bin. Terminate the Bring process. Reboot the virtual computer.

Step 15 - Install the casino software

You can now install the casino software. On the virtual computer, log in as the casino user. Create a new folder on the desktop called "poker". It's a good idea to install all your casino software in a single folder.

The casino user currently has restricted privileges. Some casinos insist that you install their software when logged in as a user with administrative privileges. Some casinos also insist that you run their software when logged in as a user with administrative privileges.

Preferably, we would like to install and run the software while logged in as a user has restricted privileges.

Here is how to set up a typical casino's poker software.

Still logged in as the casino user, go to the casino web site. Download their software directly into the poker folder you created moments ago.

Go into the folder and double click on the software. It will begin installing.

When the install asks where you would like to install the software, choose the "poker" folder you created moments ago. Don't let the install the use the default folder.

If the installation completes without complaints, all is well. However, if the installation complaints that it needs administrative privileges, this is what you must do:

Log out from the casino user's account and log in to the admin user's account. Open the "User Accounts" window just as you did before. Click on the casino user act and then click on "Change the account type". Click on "Computer Administrator" and then click the "Change Account Type" button. Log out from the admin user's account and log back into the casino user's account.

Try to install the software again. This time it should install without complaints. Now log out of the casino user's account and go back to the admin user account. Change the casino user's account type back to "limited". Log out of the admin user account and log back into the casino user's account.

Now try running the software. If the software complaints that it needs administrative privileges to run, change the casino user's account to "Computer Administrator" just as you did above. It's unfortunate that you have to run the software with administrative privileges, but it's not the end of the world.

Step 16 - Change your video settings

OH is quite fussy about which desktop theme you are using. Currently, only the Windows XP default style and the Windows 2000 classic style are supported. You must change your desktop theme to one of these styles on both the real computer and the virtual computer. Click "Start - Control Panel - (Appearances and Themes) - Change the computer's theme" to do this.

Step 17 - Start playing poker

On the virtual computer, start Bring by using the “cmd.exe" shortcut. Start the casino software and choose the table. Make sure the table's window is not obscured by any other Windows.

Now go to your real computer, start Bring and try to get the table to appear in a window. If everything has been set up properly, you should be able to control the table from your real computer.

Now start OH. Press OH's autostart button and you're ready to make money!

Step 18 - How to play in the future

Every time you use bots to play poker for you, you must follow this simple checklist.

1. Boot up your real computer. Start BOT
2. Boot up your virtual computer and log in as the casino user.
3. On the virtual computer, use the “cmd.exe” shortcut to run Bring.
4. Start the casino software. Select a table. Make sure this window isn't obscured by any other windows.



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Post  optim on Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:03 pm

Is it really safer to run bot using vrtual machine? If yes why?

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  Admin on Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:11 pm

optim wrote:Is it really safer to run bot using vrtual machine? If yes why?
Yes it most deffo is as the bot and game client work on dif platforms so no hooking process can find the bot as you are only running the poker software on the clean PC

However if you have not set one up before it is not a simple process and will take some reading here first.

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  placebo on Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:50 am

I bot since about 1 year and I am also working with VM, but my security is not anyway near that of the above tutorial.

I will definately try this - that is a nice tutorial!

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:56 am

placebo wrote:I bot since about 1 year and I am also working with VM, but my security is not anyway near that of the above tutorial.

I will definately try this - that is a nice tutorial!
Make sure you get the free bring client from their site its free and other places do try to charge for this but you don't need to pay anything for the above set up.

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VM + Hopper

Post  Kleanthes on Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:09 am

Can i use Webbers Cash Hopper and MTT Starter with this? I mean, can I run the Hopper/Starter and the bot on the VM and the Pokerclient on my clean PC? Thank you

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Post  Admin on Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:14 am

Kleanthes wrote:Can i use Webbers Cash Hopper and MTT Starter with this? I mean, can I run the Hopper/Starter and the bot on the VM and the Pokerclient on my clean PC? Thank you
Hi yes it shopuld be fine but just check with the hopper seller first

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  peamasii on Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:32 am

On Windows XP I never have to set Font Smoothing off or Classic theme, everything works great with either bot. Cool

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Post  Admin on Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:19 pm

peamasii wrote:On Windows XP I never have to set Font Smoothing off or Classic theme, everything works great with either bot. Cool
just removes some of the bloatware from the os and helps make thigs run better

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setting up the vm

Post  billonline on Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:12 pm

MIKE
CAN I GIVE YOU "TEAMVIEWER" ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER AND PAY YOU TO SET UP THE VM ETC. FOR ME?
THANKS
BILL

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Post  GONADS on Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:03 am

MIKE
CAN I GIVE YOU "TEAMVIEWER" ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER AND PAY YOU TO SET UP THE VM ETC. FOR ME?
THANKS
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great suggestion ! I could certanly use some help like this my-self.

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  Admin on Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:48 am

billonline wrote:MIKE
CAN I GIVE YOU "TEAMVIEWER" ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER AND PAY YOU TO SET UP THE VM ETC. FOR ME?
THANKS
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I could do but i would be ripping you off

I and my team are working an another setup a lot simpler and 1 click install

You will get this for free so put your wallet away.

I will be making an announcement on this later with the files available to download.

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  Admin on Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:49 am

GONADS wrote:
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CAN I GIVE YOU "TEAMVIEWER" ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER AND PAY YOU TO SET UP THE VM ETC. FOR ME?
THANKS
BILL

great suggestion ! I could certanly use some help like this my-self.
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RE:VM SETUP

Post  billonline on Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:58 am

that would be great Laughing Laughing Laughing when is/how long is "later" as we/ i we need it done before we start to play for real money??
i downloaded and set it up without the vm part and it works great on play money mode.

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  GONADS on Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:44 am

The same here Bill, works great on playmoney but I daren't use real cash without VM and when it comes to VM, I dont mind admitting I am a complete thicko !! lol

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Re: Setting up a VM and running a secure bot

Post  bucksfizz on Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:09 pm

Admin wrote:
Setting up a VM and running a secure bot


We are going to use a piece of software called "Bring". All files are included as a Download at the bottom of this post.


where is the dl at bottom of post?

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